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656: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:12:51.45
カメの持ち物おすすめ教えて~
オタばりと気合い鉢巻は確定で、残り1枠何が良い!?
663: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:14:30.68
>>656
その枠ならゴルサポじゃね
ただ亀はタンクというより近接アタッカーだから気合い抜いて力おたバリゴルサポの方がいいと思う
667: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:15:26.83
>>656
チカハチ確定
バリア気合ゴルサポから2つ選択じゃないか?
自分はゴルサポでゴール決められる状況の見極めがちょっと苦手だからバリア気合にしてる
672: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:17:08.28
きあハチ装備するくらいならちかハチとゴルサポ装備しろ
682: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:19:11.56
>>672
きあハチの有無がベイブレード勝負の決め手になるぞ
むしろゴルサポの為に抜くならバリアじゃね?ユナイト技を吐くタイミングがシビアになるが
688: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:20:34.66
気合カメはありだろ
つうか硬すぎてビビるぞアレ

逆にキャリーキャラにゴルサポが微妙
相手殲滅してから悠々ゴールでいい

697: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:22:18.17
>>688
ユナイトをいち早く覚える為の経験値稼ぎにゴルサポがあると便利なんだよね
相手のカメに経験値で先行するのが大事だからなあ
749: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:33:32.88
>>697
ガンク成功させればいいだけだろ
どのみちシュートチャンスはその2回だし
769: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:37:56.35
>>749
ガンクで全滅させられたらゴルサポ無しでシュートできるが、1キルだけ取れた時とか相手を大きく削って下がらせたような状況ならゴルサポの有無が影響してくる

まあ俺はゴルサポ積んでないけど

778: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:40:48.16
>>769
枚数有利だと味方が常人ならシュートモーション中は持たせてくれるし
序盤なら最大30点だしな。そこまで無理筋ではない
734: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:30:05.14
ゴルサポで下ゴールを亀前に強引に破壊しにいくんだったらアリ
741: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:32:19.16
ゴルサポ持つならもうこう持たないしもうこう持つならゴルサポ持たない
ゴルサポもうこうは中途半端でなにしたいのかよくわからない
781: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:41:15.03
ゴルサポは無くてもよい状況ってのが多々あるから軽視する意見があるけど
それ以上にゴルサポがあれば優位にもっていける場面がある以上外す理由がない

過信してはダメだけどそれ以上に有効な時の優位性が強いんで付けるべき

790: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:44:08.12
>>781
レーンならそうだけど中央キャリーなら敵の殲滅能力と生存能力よりも重視する必要はないわ
オタバリと気合ほどの戦闘補助にならん
なみのり蛙が微妙になって気合も強いしな今
791: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:45:26.85
>>790
すまん、別のアンカに付けたけどjgだけは別だと思ってる
793: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:45:51.03
正直ゴルサポで小銭ゴールしても結局自分以外もゴール決めないと下ゴール割れなくね?
ゴルサポのおかげで下ゴール割れたって試合あんまないな
普通に数的有利で殲滅してゴール上に三人くらい集まってさっさとゴールして壊すってパターンの方が多い
807: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:49:59.22
>>793
結局JGの点が入らない限りは壊れないよ
822: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:53:28.00
>>807
そのJGがゴール入れるタイミングって大体押せ押せムードのときだしその状況になりやすいように対面強くなるアイテムで良いと思うんだよね
ちなみに俺はW鉢巻きおたバリでやってる
809: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:51:13.00
>>793
一人だと厳しいと思う
二人ともゴルサポで相手ゴール側に張り付いて餌を奪い続ける際の回復手段にゴールを使っていく
敵が居ても強引に細かいゴール決めて2蜂のころには上がちょい点持ち込めば終わるくらいでいいんよ

玉袋にならないためにも10点未満でこまめに入れてく
それで継戦して餌を奪い続けるためにゴルサポで確実にゴールをしていきたい

798: 名無しさん 2021/09/05(日) 18:48:10.88
結局ゴルサポちかはちおたばりでいい?

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